Speeding ticket with no evidence

I was pulled over last year on a remote road, and the officer who came to my vehicle was a rookie, "in training" she said. I asked to see the speed on the radar gun, she told me I wasnt allowed, I protested, she stuck with her story, and said she would confirm with her supervisor, who was in the car as well. She came back some time later, and told me that I couldnt see it, becuase she couldnt 'lock it in' as I was coming down a hill at the time. Her original reason was due to 'officer safety'. There was clearly no 'locked in' speed taken here. I am awaiting my court date and have requested documentation on her credentials, and her notes. The other strange thing, is that another office is on the document for court, not her, the supervisor I am assuming.

Am I wrong in thinking that they have no real evidence here? Also, she gave me the ticket, because I was being argumenative I suppose, she handed it to me, said there you go and walked away, no explanation of fine or points or anything. I said wait a minute, I want to sign it, she says, I dont have to let you sign it, I can sign an affadavit saying its all ok. It was the weirdest ticket I have ever received.

The supervisor did not come to the car, and as such, has no first hand knowledge of the conversation. Does this matter if she does not show? Can i request that she come as well?


thanks in advance!

Rookie Days!

I remember mine and it was a while between being posted to my first detachment and receiving training in the operation of radar for speed measurement. It is not uncommon for the trainer to be responsible for the operation of the radar and the trainee for filling out and serving the ticket. Of course, when this happens, the trainer is required for court to testify to the use of the radar and your speed as it was measured.

As I am sure you have learned if you have done any research here on the site, there is no requirement that your speed be "locked in" on the speed measuring device or that you be shown a reading if it were. That is at the discretion of the officer involved. The same applies to signature. Like you, I would want to sign as well, but the officer does not need to allow you to. Filling out the affidavit of service on the back of the original copy of the ticket is sufficient.

I often wondered why people were so fixated on seeing the radar. They had no idea how it worked or what the significance of the numbers displayed were. I often thought to myself that if I were dishonest, I could lock in the speed of the first violator of the day and use it for the whole day. Knowing what your own speed is and monitoring it with your speedometer continuously is something that a driver who is paying attention to task does and that also means you know what the officer measured.

If you feel that the rookie officer will be able to provide evidence for your defense, by all means, contact the court registry and make arrangements to have her subpeonaed. If there is a subpeona she must show for court. If not, it will depend on the justice whether the affidavit of service is sufficient in her absence.

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