Q&A - First Ticket

New Driver Signs 2011A few days ago, I have just received my first Novice License and had retained my L for a year without any issue or ticket. Today, I have driven up Burnaby mountain, and down for the first time and was ticketed out a speeding at 92km/hour in a 60km/hour zone. I am sure that my speedometer didn't say that I am traveling that fast, I am admitting that I did 70 km/hour, and the car in front of me with same exact model does drove faster than mine but wasn't called out to the side by the officer.

So I have received violation ticket under section 146(7) and fine for $196. I do not have dash camera in my car but my fiance was also in the car. There are no camera along the route and no other car apart from the car in front. I don't feel like I should be ticketed for this or at least this much but I also don't know what proof can I provide if I want to dispute it. Is there any hope in disputing this ticket? If I can't then what should I do since I just got my novice license for a few day? And how could it effect my license and class 5 test in the future?

Comments

Why don't you know how fast you were going?

 

I have driven up Burnaby mountain, and down for the first time and was ticketed out a speeding at 92km/hour in a 60km/hour zone. I am sure that my speedometer didn't say that I am traveling that fast, I am admitting that I did 70km/hour

What do you mean by this? It's not a matter of what you're ready to admit, but of how fast you were going.

Yet from what you've told us, you don't seem to know what your speed actually was. What speed was your speedometer indicating?

If the only repurcussion from exceeding the speed limit by more than 50% is 3 demerits and a $196 fine, then you should count yourself lucky.

So far as additional penalties are concerned, it will be up to ICBC/OSMV whether they suspend your Class 7 license on the basis of that one ticket; the short period you've been qualified to drive solo is not in your favour.

I would contact ICBC and ask them what your situation is.

 

Clarification to my question

I was trying to say that my speedometer was saying 70km/h when I peeked down at it a little moment before I was called off the road. I am more than certain that I didn't go over 70 which I know is still over the speed limit and I will pay fine for that but it was nowhere near 90km/h. If I get a suspend for 70km/h then I am cool with it too since I did go over speed. I just want to know what can I do to make it fair to what I did. 

To make it fair ?

Unless you were traveling 40 KPH over the limit and the police officer gave you an excessive speeding ticket the fact you were over the limit by 10, 15, 20 doesn't factor in to the equation. 

The major point you should be considering is that you are driving, holding a novice driving license. If you get another "inadvertent violation" ticket before you test out of the GLP program, you will loose your "N" license and when you get it back you will start the Graduated Licensing Program all over again.

You were traveling in a 60 zone.  By your own admission you were exceeding 60.  That completes the offense.

If you are saying "ya, well the other car was going fast too", yup he/she was, you got caught they didn't, it happens.

Are you saying that if the police officer didn't apprehend the other violator, that you should then not get a ticket ??

(police officer) "Well it's your lucky day, the other car was also speeding but by the time I got out on the roadway that car had already passed so you don't get a ticket even though you were speeding"

Isn't that something children say was they get caught ?   "Well everyone else was doing it."

Your comment that it was the first time you drove on that roadway and that somehow has some bearing on the violation, also concerns me.  Should we only get tickets if we are driving on a familiar street ?

"I just want to know what can I do to make it fair to what I did". 

You were speeding, and although you have a different perception of your speed from the police officer, you admit you were traveling in excess of the limit, that sounds like it's pretty fair already.

Congratulations!

I  remember my first ticket - I was speeding along Nordel way to turn left on Scott Rd, hurrying in to work, because a driver who was scheduled did nto show up and the manager asked me to get there quick because the store was flooded with deliveries. It was a bright sunny morning, after rush hour, with very little traffic. I was clocked going 70km/h on a 3 lane divided stretch ina 50km zone. Cop was hiding behind the salavation army bin when he ran out an flagged me down, gesturing to go around the block, enter the parking lot and drive up see him. I decided to take the lengthy detour, found the cop and got my ticket. I thought that he was a dick and I should've just pretended that I didn't see him and turned left instead.

First things first, you don't admit to speeding if you get a ticket for speeding. 146(7) - doesn't matter if its 92 or 70 - its above the posted sign - 60km/h. If you admitted to going 70km/h to the cop - too bad its on rcord.

Second, you don't present proof that you didn't do something, its the other way around - the cop presents proof that you did do something and you poke holes in it and cast shadow.

There are enough holes, chances and opportunities to get out of it, you should do your research on this site and others and go throguh the dispute process just for the learnign experience. You have very little to lose.

You probably will not win your case, but the experience is worth it.

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